“It can be quite debilitating for kids.”

Before Gwen and Blake…

…there was Gwen and Gavin.

Gwen StefaniandGavin Rossdalewere together for quite a while.

Gwen Stefani in a jacket smiling with Blake Shelton, in a black shirt, at a sports event

They started dating in 1995 and got married in 2002.

Then, after having three children with Gavin, Gwen filed for divorce in 2015.

It was finalized a year later.

Gwen in an embellished jacket and leggings, and Gavin Rossdale in a jacket

“My parents were both married three times each so very colorful background,” he said.

“And so, I never thought I’d ever get divorced.

So if there’s a simple shame in my life, it’s that.”

Gwen in a ruffled outfit, and Gavin in a dark suit with a light shirt, at a media event

“Life just unfolds how it should.

And whether that’s comfortable or uncomfortable, it just is what it is.

It’s an easier philosophy to live by ‘cause it means you don’t sit in regret.”

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“I feel bad for my kids, that’s it.

That’s the overriding thing,” he said.

“It wasn’t fun for me to be from a broken home.

Gavin Rossdale stands with a neutral expression, wearing a black T-shirt and dark sunglasses

I think in a way it gave me a career.

So I don’t mind cause I turned it around to sort of an interesting career path.

But it can be quite debilitating for kids.”

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Listen to the whole interviewhere.

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Gavin in a black tuxedo and Gwen in a glittering halter-neck dress

Gwen in sunglasses, and Gavin also in sunglasses, at a film event

Gwen Stefani and Gavin Rossdale pose together; Stefani in a white top and black skirt, Rossdale in a brown jacket and black shirt